tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN December 29, 2012 1:00am-2:00am PST
>> oh, my love life is great. >> you're looking a bit sort of starry eyed to moo. >> i do? >> maybe there's a little man in your life making you happy? >> i do. he's a great man on he loves me for me. oh, there he is. he's cute. he loves my daughter. my family loves him. >> where did you meet? >> we met at a studio, at a studio. he was managing a writer that i was working with at the time on i was like, oh, he is cute. >> on this is the one you think? >> i think so. i think so, yes. i do. >> it's fantastic. it so good to catch up with you. >> that's it? >> that's it. >> oh. >> is there anything else you want to say? want to talk about world affairs? >> no, we covered everything. >> brandy, it's called " 2/11", it's a fantastic album. it's been too long. lovely to see you. >> you, too.
we begin with breaking news about your employment, your paycheck, all of it is at stake if the country goes over the fiscal cliff. it's a cliff that the lawmakers built. they've set the tuesday deadline, they've known it was coming for more it and a year. but until now they've done little to agree on tax increases on tax cuts until that time. people in this building have none what's coming on tuesday yet they're only returning to get back to work just now. senate came back yesterday. house members, well, they won't be back until sunday. this afternoon house on senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house.
he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up, that unemployment is still available for 2 million people on that lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction on economic growth steps that we can take in the new year but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting on sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is.
it's a very serious meeting on it took an extended period of time, as you all know waiting for us. >> mr. president, i would just add -- i share the view of the majority leader, we had a good meeting down at the white house. we are engaged in discussion, the majority leader on myself on the white house >> -- so i'm hopeful. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to
wait till the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> but it remains to be seen whether lawmakers on both sides of the aisle get it. some even sounded miffed to have to work over the holiday. democratic senator charles schumer telling the "new york times," quote, i didn't realize how much i didn't want to be here until i got here. and republican senator rand paul saying he'd rather be playing soccer with his kids and telling the "times" "this is no way to run things." the dow industrials losing 150
points. jessica yellin, was any progress made today? was there any movement at all besides this being dropped in the senate's lap? >> randy, by washington standards, that is progress. and i know it's hard to believe but the fact that all these leaders left this meeting in agreement about the next step is a hopeful sign. the good news is that this could have been much worse. they could have come out of the meeting saying it's impossible to reach an agreement, we cannot even begin negotiation, there will be no deal. that did not happen. so the fact that they have a game plan for the weekend and for the next steps, it's better than a lot of people hoped for. so now everyone's holding their breath. >> i guess we have to be thankful for the little things. but how did we get here?
we heard the president say today he's mildly optimistic. why? >> that optimism has to do with the fact that it could have been worse, that all the parties in there did want to get to a deal, that they would rather find a way out of this instead of going over the cliff, but the bigger picture is you said how did we get here and the problem is what they're fighting over, while it seems silly and petty right now, is about the fundamental difference between the democrat and the republican parties. it's about the role of government in americans' lives. lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas.
that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic negotiation over this ideological divided america, randi. >> so how likely is it we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington right now. >> there is is an infinitesimal increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today, but i still would say the odds -- the people who are placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than when we woke up this morning but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. randi. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw politics with "new york times" columnist ross douthat the and cornell. the president said he wanted to see a straight up-or-down vote. as we mentioned that, will happen on monday in the senate. he could lose that up-or-down vote. >> i think you're likely to see something come out of the senate. you have to pay attention, especially on the senate side to tone. what minority leader mcconnell was saying was tone was right. i think you'll see something come out of the senate but i think the problem comes on the house side, whether or not speaker boehner what it send theirs way to go an up or down vote without having the majority of the majority. >> ross, this is what speaker boehner said he wanted to push off to the senate. nothing helps us answer the big
question, can his speaker bring his conference on board? could house republicans now be ready to accept a compromise, even if they don't like what's in it? >> i think a lot depends on what the democrats are willing to give at this point. the democrats sort of have an interesting dilemma where it's the sort of bird in the hand issue. i think if you do have something come out of the senate where the tax threshold goes up to 400,000, rather than 250,000, where there's some kind of concession to republicans and frankly to some democrats from upper income states who would like that to go up as well, then i think there would be a lot of pressure on boehner to bring it to a vote and to have it pass. again, it probably wouldn't pass with a majority of the majority. it would end up passing with a chunk of republicans and a lot of democrats. but if the democrats just want to push things and say, no, it's
250,000, i mean that, might not get out of senate and if it gets out of the senate, i don't think it gets to the house. >> cornell, let's back up for just a moment here. not going over the cliff isn't actually that much of an achievement, is it? it's just avoiding the worst so that's the least both sides can do, right? >> i think long term it's more problematic than that. what you see is you have one side of congress that is completely dysfunctional. one side of congress, the house of representatives, is not functional. we're in the midst of a civil war on the republican side. when the speaker of the house puts out his bill and just moments later has to pull his bill back because his caucasus in full revolt, that says something. we're in the midst of a civil war that's going on and i think the american public will be much to the collateral damage to what's going on on the republican side. i think we're looking on this problem down the road until the republican speaker gets his act together, if he remains speaker, if he has an up-or-down vote
without the majority of the majority. >> even if they manage to avoid the worst, the way this process has played out before us probably won't fill americans for a whole lot of hope for the next two years, will it? >> no, though in a sense you could argue if they did actually pass something in the next 48 hours, which seems a little more likely than it did a day ago, then can you argue the cliff worked as it was designed. this was designed by congress to force congress's own hand. if something passes at the last minute, it's a case of at least that part of the system working out, congress doing what it forced itself to do. i think cornell is right about the problem facing republicans right now, right, which is that the incentives for each individual member of the house of representatives, everybody republican member, are in a sense to oppose president obama as strongly as possible because most of them represent safe seats where the biggest danger is a primary challenge from the right. but the incentive for the party
as a whole is the legislative landscape is tilted very strongly against republicans right now, taxes are going to go up in some sense no matter what and for the long-term future of the party, it's probably better to retreat and find new ground if fight on. so much you have those sort of duelling imperatives at work. >> thank you both and we'll see what happens on monday. >> more breaking news coming up. a rare case of lawmakers over on the senate side actually getting something done, something that the hard-hit survivors of hurricane sandy are counting on. >> and the people who got the job of going after unethical lawmakers and bipartisan efforts to eliminate those watch dogs. keeping them honest.
more breaking news now. the senate late tonight approving a $60.4 billion bill to rebuild after superstorm sandy. now, it goes to the house, but if both chambers fail to agree on a package before the current congressional term expires, then everyone will have to start again from scratch. keeping them honest, this has been the least productive
congress in modern history. at last count, a little more than 200 bills enacted. by comparison, the 80th congress, which then-president harry truman called the do-nothing congress, it managed to pass 906 bills into law. think about that as you watch the next report about one of the few things lawmakers seem to agree on, dismantling a little known office that's designed for one simple thing, keeping them honest. >> what is outrageous about it is you see members of congress on both sides saying they have zero tolerance for unethical conduct, but behind closed doors, they're quietly trying to kill the one body in congress that is trying to seriously go after unethical members. >> melanie sloan is director of c.r.e.w. or citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington. she's talking about the office of congressional ethics, the only government body outside of congress whose sole mandate is to formally investigate members inside congress, but many of the same members of congress want the oce gone. >> the oce has forced members of
congress to take ethics more seriously. it has forced the ethics committee act and let all members of congress know they can't skate by like they have for so many years with unethical conduct going on. >> c.r.e.w. is considered by some to be left leaning and liberal, but they're not the only ones worried about the oce. >> one of your counterparts say members will go out and say they support the oce while privately they're trying to kill it. do you think that's true? >> yes. that is true. >> this man is chairman of the conservative right-leaning national legal and policy center. >> if oce goes away, if the members are not named, if it's not reauthorized, what message does that send to the public? >> it sends a message to the public that not only is the system broken, the ethics system broken, but it doesn't even exist anymore. >> the oce was formed just four
years ago after scandals and corruption had grown so bad, the house had to clean up its act. speaker nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. in just four years they have done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possible congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the actual house ethics committee for further review, meaning that in those 37 cases, the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and sometimes federal laws were likely violated. so why exactly does congress want to kill it? well, actually, that's hard to say. folks like these who have in the past voted to cut the oce budget or limit its powers refused to talk to us. for those who would talk, opinions were mixed. >> i think it's important there be some way for the public, for someone outside of congress to raise issues about the conduct of members of congress. one of the things that -- is it oce, oce has sent to the ethics committee was actually pretty flimsy.
>> i supported it the first time, i'll support it again. >> i don't think it's working well. >> is there anything oce has done specifically that might have rubbed the congress the wrong way to the point where they wouldn't want to get it going again? >> well, in fact, nearly everything the oce does has rubbed the entire congress the wrong way. and in large part, that's because congress doesn't want to hold anybody accountable for ethics violations. >> former congressman lee hamilton is a respected member from indiana who served more than 30 years and helped chair the famous 9/11 commission. he says getting the new oce board members appointed is crucial to having ethics enforced in congress. >> whether or not you appoint the new members to the oce is a critical point. >> congressman hamilton is now the director of the center on congress at indiana university. >> and it is going to tell us whether the leaders of the congress are serious or whether
they're not serious about the enforcement of the standards of conduct within the institution. this is a critical test. >> so joe, who needs to do something to keep the oce going? >> well, let's see, the republican house speaker john boehner, the democratic minority leader, nancy pelosi, have to nominate new board members and approve one another's selections. both have said they're going to do it, but so far, there's been little movement on either side, randi. >> and when does the reauthorization of the board members need to get done? >> the terms of the outgoing board members expire on december 31st. for the oce to keep going, people need to be in place by the end of the year, which means congress needs to get going in the current lame-duck session. >> so in terms of how this works, though, the oce refers its investigations to the house ethics committee, right?
some critics say the oce is an unnecessary duplicate body, really. are they right? >> that's exactly right. oce is an outside nonpartisan group that investigates ethics allegations and reports those findings to the ethics committee, usually recommending either to look into the matter further or just drop the case. the reasons nancy pelosi pushed for it and the house voted to start it in 2008 was a feeling that congress essentially was not doing an effective job investigating itself. so in that sense, the oce serves an important function, but the oce doesn't have subpoena power, for example. and the congressional ethics committee doesn't need to act on its recommendations, which means investigations can often go nowhere, so when the house ethics committee doesn't follow up on oce investigations, some members of congress argue they have been unfairly targeted, their name is dragged through the mud, turning the oce into a
villain. >> yeah, and what about the criticism that some members criticize the oce for unfairly targeting african-americans. are they right? >> that's something that has been talked about again and again. and a lot of people have said the reason why so many african-americans' names get in the mix, because they're in such safe districts. so that it's not about race, it's more about the fact that they're in safe districts. still, that's the kind of story that deserves a complete treatment and we would just like to revisit all of that and air all of the questions in another report. >> joe johns, thank you very much. >> thank you, randi.
the video is unforgettable. we want to make sure the world does not forget about someone who for more than a year has repeatedly risked his life by talking with us. tonight, he needs all of our good wishes. zaidoun, our voice of the syrian revolution, hasn't been seen since december 15th. that's when his family says the feared secret police came to his home and arrested him. they believe zaidoun and his brother are being held at the notorious building 215, a facility in damascus notorious for torture and abuse.
all they know is someone in the same prison saw zaidoun and told them he's okay. they got that word several days ago. it's not a lot, but it's something to hold on to. his cousin has created a facebook page to demand zaidoun and his brother's release in the hopes that someone inside the syrian regime would listen. he risked his life more than a dozen times by calling for interviews, using his real name, to expose the brutality of bashar al assad's regime. we want to make sure his voice is still being heard. here is one where he's explaining why he's willing to die for the revolution. >> we're getting killed every moment. we are not even able to get some basic medicine to injured people. children are really hungry. isn't it enough? you think we can stop? we go back, we will stop this revolution. if you want to stop this revolution, you have to kill 3 million, 4 million people.
we might just face our death tomorrow morning or after a half hour or get arrested and die under torture. but this doesn't mean we are going to retreat. this doesn't mean we're going to give up. we will stay, even if it takes us just another 10,000 people killed or 100,000 people killed. we will not stop. >> said zaidoun's mother, sister, two daughters and his wife are all in syria right now. we hope they're safe tonight and we'll keep in touch as best we can. >> we're following other important stories, isha sesay joins us with a 360 bulletin. >> the 23-year-old rape victim indians call damini has died in a hospital. the attack, a vicious rape, on a new dehli bus. six suspects, including the bus driver, have been arrested. nelson mandela's
granddaughter has asked the public to stop spreading rumors that he's close to death. calling them hurtful and insensitive. she says the former south african president is doing well and is aware of what is being said about him. he had gallstone surgery earlier this month and is back home now. george h.w. bush's spokesman said the former president continues to improve and his doctors are cautiously optimistic that his current course of treatment will be effective. he has been at methodist hospital for more than a month. he's been in intensive care since sunday. it's now confirmed that 15 tornadoes hit alabama alone on christmas, including the one shown here. it ripped through walgreens in mobile, a terrifying scene, as many as 30 twisters were reported from texas to alabama, on tuesday. incredible numbers. >> yeah, certainly. and that video is silent. imagine what that must have sounded like as that came
roaring through. thank you very much. coming up, a new jersey couple is supposed to pick up a child in russia in just a few weeks, but a new law banning adoption of russian children by american parents has them wondering if they will ever bring home the little boy they already consider their son. i speak with them next.
working to adopt and bring home. russian president vladimir putin today signed a controversial law that bans american families from adopting russian children. the law is seen as retaliation for a law president obama signed earlier this month imposing restrictions on human rights abusers in russia. they said, quote, the russian government's politically motivated decision will reduce adoption possibilities for children under institutional care. we're further concerned about statements that adoptions already under way would be stopped and hope the russian government would allow those children who have already met and bonded with their future parents to finish the necessary legal procedures so they can join their families. the state department says there are 46 children in russia whose adoptions by american parents are almost complete and those adoptions now could be in jeopardy, but the impact could be even greater than that. hundreds of families are
believed to be working with adoption agencies in russia. robert and kim were supposed to pick up a child in russia in just a few weeks. they have already bonded with their son, preston. filled their house with toys and clothes for him, and already consider him their son. i spoke with them a short time ago. so, kim, you've actually been to russia twice to visit preston. tell me what it was like the first time you met him and what he's like. >> i can't even begin to describe it. all i can say is, and all i kept saying was, i know how birth mothers feel when they first take that first look at their new baby. and that's exactly how i can compare it. and it was -- it was the most dreadful day in my life since my wedding. and i knew the second i laid eyes on him that this was the baby i was meant to carry. -- parent. >> and robert, you have been
unable to have children of your own together. how long has this process, this adoption process, been going on for you? >> it's been going on for a little over two years. it was -- it was meant -- it was met by a long time of waiting, and my wife and i had some infertility issues, and we weren't able to have children of our own. and this is what led up to our adoption of preston. >> and kim, you were so confident that you would be bringing preston home that you actually have already bought plane tickets to pick him up next month, right? >> we're told. and this is a normal process. there's this 30-day wait. >> you never imagined anything like this would come in the middle. >> so much so that we stay with a host family when we're in russia.
and we were staying with mila, and we call her babuschka, which is grandma in russian, and we say can we leave the diaper bag here since we'll be back in four weeks? and preston's little outfit, i bought him a ski sweater and a turtleneck oncy to wear home, and she said, of course, you'll be back in four weeks. >> and robert, did he understand, were you able to tell him you were going to be his parents, that he would be coming home with you? >> yes, and it was quite evident because the last trip that we made to russia, right after the court date, we looked at him and said we are taking you to the united states of america. and -- >> we're going to be a forever family. >> and i have to tell you, his eyes lit up, our eyes lit up. and we hugged him and we kissed him and told him how much we loved him.
but he is such a wonderful young boy, and to see him and to just feel him and to hold him and smell him, he's -- >> smell him, that's all i kept saying on the trip back to see him again. and adopt him officially, i kept saying to robert, all i want to do is smell him and touch his skin. >> so you had this call with the state department today with many of these other families who are in the same predicament you are. is there any hope at all? can they help? >> well, we can't lose hope. we have to believe. >> what do they say? >> unfortunately, at the moment, there are 46 families at different stages of the process. there's 500 to 1,000 families right now that are in the russian programs of adoption.
but 46 of our families have gotten to the point of the adoption as we have. right now, there are some families that are in the country that have already -- they have their children's passports and visas in their hands, and they need to leave the country before january 1st. so the state department obviously is most concerned, if you will, for those people getting them out of the country with their children. >> i can't imagine how difficult this must be for you. having him coming so close to now, you probably have prepared at home and -- >> his stroller is in our dining room. >> is there a room set up? >> yes, there is. his crib is next to her bed. we wanted him that close. because we knew we would be dealing with some bonding issues. >> sure. >> and we want him that close. >> are you at all worried that he will think that you forgot about him? >> yes.
i do believe that. and if i have to spend the rest of my life to bring him home, i will do so. and i will keep, keep fighting the fight. i will walk the walk. and we won't stop until he comes home to us. >> no matter how long it takes. >> no matter how long. >> absolutely. we promised him we were going to be his mommy and daddy. >> we promised him a life of love and trust. >> and we're older parents, and we know that, and we're established. and we have a beautiful home. his college is already saved for him. the judge asked me before she granted us the adoption, she asked me, mrs. summers, through a translator, what are your dreams for your child. and i said my dream is that he will be a wonderfully established, well-adjusted, loving human being, and also cure cancer or perhaps play the
cello, graduate from juliard school of music, and the translator was translating this, and the judge looked at me with tears in her eyes and she said, mrs., summers, we all wish for that for our children. >> we are so sorry for you and we hope you one day do get to bring preston home to your home. >> thank you. >> dr. jane aronson is a pediatrician and international adoption specialist. she is the founder and ceo of worldwide orphans foundation. and she joins me now. tough interview, certainly for these families to see what they're going through. i see you're even emotional having watched that just now. what do you make of what's going on here? what do you make of this bill,
and what do you think is the motivation behind it? >> i think it's very simple. this is a retaliation, a political maneuver. the russian and american relationships, the relationship between america and russia is in a disaster relationship at this point, but what's really important is first to focus on what we can do to advocate for the families because there are hundreds of families involved, and this is something that has been part of russian adoptions for 25 years. as long as russian adoption has been around, it's been a problem that at any one point, there have been more a tore -- moratoria, weeks, months, where there was an untree districtable path for families and lots of families lost their children. >> this isn't the first time, but do you think it's about this law our administration here, the obama administration signed in? >> i think it's not just that. this is an acute moment. this is where they're going to make a stand. a long time in coming. what's interesting is if you look in the last seven weeks,
the bilateral agreement for international adoption between russia and the united states was signed on november 1st. >> now that's null and void. >> so it's clear in the last seven weeks, this has to do with a political situation. >> you would think, though, given the horrible conditions there in the orphanages and the numbers of orphans who need homes, this is something russia would want, they would welcome americans to come in and adopt, no? >> no. >> why not? >> it's a great comment you're making. this is something that i think no one pays attention to. this is not just about russia. this is about the orphan crisis. this is about 153 million children who live in terrible conditions in many countries where governments really do not stop and sit at a table and think strategically about what to do with hundreds of millions of children. they're too busy taking care of other things like conflict and war. this is a moment where i feel it's really important for people to understand clearly that no one sits and thinks about orphans in the long range scheme of things. and so, you know, to talk about
the bad conditions, well, bad conditions are everywhere. i traveled to romania, russia, bolgaria, i spent the last god knows how many years working in orphanages trying to support kids, and the conditions kids live in is intolerable, and it doesn't change. russia is horrific. it's the worst kind of conditions you can possibly imagine. >> as you mentioned, american families have been stopped before from trying to adopt russian children. >> many times. >> are you hopeful that this will turn around? >> i'm always hopeful, and i think that the summers are such beautiful people. there are families who are still parenting their children from a distance from many countries, whether it's guatemala, tibet, colombia, whatever country, china, vietnam, cambodia, if you look back in the history, as i said, i have been involved in this for decades, you will see many families never give up on their children even if they're held hostage by the country. >> that's what robert said, he
will not give up. >> he's not alone. >> what do they see, when these families go? it strikes a chord with them. and so, you know, to talk about the bad conditions, well, bad conditions are everywhere. i traveled to romania, russia, bolgaria, i spent the last god knows how many years working in orphanages trying to support >> alone. >> alone, untouched, fed by bottle propping. often speed fed so they choke, they lie in their own feces and urine, they stink, they're untouchable, and the people who work there are not professionally trained so they don't want to be near the kids. a lot of kids have underlying medical conditions, and there are no physicians who come in and qualify or quantify what
their issues are, so they don't get that medical intervention, and we go by a rule of thumb. three months in an orphanage, you lose a month of development. you end up with malnutrition, organic brain injury, growth stunting and you end up with attachment issues. >> so sad. horrible for a child. >> tragic. >> and to not get any love and any affection. >> it's tragic. >> so what is your advice, then, to american families who might already be in the process, might already have their children identified, might already be there in russia? >> you can't give up hope. it's very simple, you cannot give up hope and you have to advocate. what's going on now, parents are gathering together, signing petitions.
there's more snow on the way. forecasters say snow in the south will hit the northeast tomorrow, and a fresh snow storm is expected to push into the ohio valley. freezing rain is threatening parts of texas, missouri, and tennessee, and ice could bring down power lines in oklahoma and arkansas. authorities say this week's nasty weather has killed ten people. leaders in many religious faiths gathered with residents of newtown, connecticut, for interfaith vigils today.
two weeks after the shooting, they gathered outside in the cold to pray for hope, peace, and healing for the family and friends of the victims. new york state police arrested a former neighbor of william spengler, the man who ambushed and killed two firefighters as they battled a blaze he's suspected of setting. authorities traced the serial numbers on two guns to dawn nguyen. she is now in federal custody. and a scary rescue on lake erie. a dog wandered off on a walk and fell through the ice. the rescue crews responded. the dog whose name is bart was cold, but he didn't appear to be seriously hurt. >> isha, you're going to want to stick around for this because i know you're going to be with anderson and kathy griffin in times square on new year's eve.
i hope you're ready. they're teaming up for their sixth year running, as you know, and we can all agree they have a special chemistry. here's a preview. >> you could say that. >> i said to cnn months ago, i said, look, i want the most famous woman from bravo. and i was referring to camille grammar, but they thought i was referring to you. >> you can't beat her rate. nobody can beat her rate. can i just say, this is what i love about our broadcast, apparently you're proud of it. i love that this year you guys aren't even trying. you're not even trying. ryan seacrest has every big star in the world. like, we're going to nashville or something. who cares about nashville on new year's eve? >> honey boo boo is joining us. she's staying up late. >> score. how did you get her? honestly, you couldn't get my mom, and you got honey boo boo. is she going to be on a teleprompter acting like she can read? what happened to you? get me amanpour. would you like to tell the viewers some of the incredibly exciting locations we're going to, tokyo, sydney, london.
>> we're going to show new year's eve celebrations from around the world, new orleans, down in florida, nashville, key west, maine. >> what's the matter? you couldn't get tulsa? new orleans, nashville, and maine. that's where we're going? >> a reflection of the united states but also all around the world, london and moscow and tokyo and all those places. we'll show rio. >> we don't even have people in london and rio. we just steal footage. >> we have people, but it happens so many hours before us, we have them record something and then we put it in our show. >> if you could, would you prerecord the show and go home early? >> yes, if i could, i would. if i could record it in a sound booth and you be in another sound booth not actually able to touch me, that would be okay. >> oh, because you can talk more? all right, look, let's cut to the chase. no, no, we're not done.
is nancy grace going to come this year or not? >> i don't know. she's probably busy with the twins. >> i love the twins. john david and lucy. all right, let's call nancy. let's call jvm, jane velez-mitchell. she's in rehab, or she hasn't mentioned it for five minutes, and nancy grace has a fanciful barrette. hln is where it's happening. dr. drew could fix you. >> nancy grace has what? >> a fanciful barrette for her hair. a new hairdo, rocking a new look. >> i didn't know that. >> how could you not know that about nancy grace's barrette? everybody is talking about it. if we're going to do a countdown, that's my number one story of the year, easily. >> we'll see you monday night, 10:00. we're starting an hour earlier this year. 10:00 p.m. all the way to 12:30. >> how many days are we going to rehearse before that? >> that would be zero.
the magic, it's all about the magic of that moment. it's live tv. >> remember, you don't need to know everything. >> okay. thanks, kathy. >> bye. >> and there will be plenty more of that magic on monday. cnn's new year's eve live with anderson cooper and kathy griffin starts at 10:00 p.m. eastern this year from times square. we have been counting down your ten favorite ridiculist of the year. number six tonight, a festive holiday story featuring what else, a strip club. anderson's take on the toys for tatas program coming up next. >> hi. >> hi. you know, i can save you 15% today if you open up a charge card account with us. >> you just read my mind. >> announcer: just one little piece of information and they can open bogus accounts, stealing your credit, your money and ruining your reputation. that's why you need lifelock to relentlessly protect what matters most...
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we have been counting down the top ten ridiculists of the year based on your vote. tonight, we're at number six. this is from a few weeks ago when anderson told us about a rather unique approach to a holiday toy drive. take a look. >> time for the ridiculist. don't you love this time of year, the trees, the lights, the party. nothing says happy holidays quite as much as a strip club in arkansas. >> we're having a campaign for the month of december called toys for tatas. you come in and bring a toy to donate for our little toy drive we're having. we're going to give you two for one lap dances for as many toys as you bring. >> isn't that sweet? the fine folks of the platinum caberet in fayetteville are putting the pole back in the north pole for christmas. it's a two for one lap dance.
i'll never think of dancer, prancer, and vixen in the same way. don't get me wrong, this is for a great cause, toys for tots, although the local coordinator said the strip club didn't exactly run the idea by him. >> i really knew nothing about it. it's certainly not something we had been made aware of or something we would have endorsed. as long as it's done in a legal manner and as long as people are bringing us new, unwrapped toys, we don't get into how they were gathered and what the process was. >> what the process was. we did a little checking. believe it or not, the content of toys for tatas not confined to the fayetteville area. there's one in scottsdale, arizona, where there's also giving away a breast augmentation because there's nothing like surgery to really get you in the holiday mood. and in minneapolis, they just had their 13th annual toys for tatas event complete with complementary buffet. um, yum, who doesn't love a